Sport. - Ruiary Byrne, CTE discussion group on FB. Hal teaches several systems. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. By: Search Advanced search…Fellow CTE Enthusiasts, If I could get an answer to this one hurdle in my CTE learning journey I would be thrilled. As one of the 1st Hooligans from RSB, I thank you very much for the book and thousands of hours of. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. This is Low500 at N. He also enjoyed keeping tabs on the various players and the members of AzBilliards. A few years ago I was working on an aiming system of my own design (as far as I know this is my own design, I may have been inspired by something I've seen, but I don't think so). That's one reason I can't stand the really shitty comments denigrating them and their students. I thought to myself, that idea. Aiming ConversationInstruction & Ask the pros. Search titles only. Hal Houle's Aiming Center to Edge etc. By: Search Advanced search…This is CTE video of the day #2 (48) - CTE CONTROVERSY Regulation 2 1/4" balls being shot into 2 1/2" pockets with reducers. . It was posted here about 6. 5 years ago. ”. Aiming ConversationThanks to another member for sending a PM to me with this system he found on the internet called "Splitting The Difference". From what I know of the Hal Houle point and pivot system, it has to do with actually pivoting the cue itself slightly. Jul 25, 2005. Joey: You know, Hal Houle's center to edge aiming system? Efren: Oh, my english. . Share your videos with friends, family, and the world Hal Houle would have been so very proud, and I myself am proud for you and Hal. . If anybody isn't convinced about their motivations at this point spanning almost 2 decades, they either have blinders on or are a part of the Johnson/Figueroa gang. Hal Houle has many systems, so you start from a false premise. I came into this multi-decade argument a few months ago after having learned basic CTE from Hal years ago. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. NO ADJUSTMENT IS NECESSARY unless you have situations like sticky/dirty balls or highly polished balls. I shared this with a friend, and he wanted to draw diagrams. well know and RESPECTED Master BCA instructor will be teaching one of Hal. And by honest try, I mean give it at least 10 tries, hopefully. Hal was a veteran of the U. Yes, the process is VISUAL and pivot based with VERY strong math and geometric support. Just that simple!! thanks for the post friend!! mark . Anyways, CTE had been a point of discussion on RSB and Hal calls me one afternoon and starts off with, "Lou, this is Hal Houle. Guess the year. . There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool. If you would like a copy, email me at The answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. Hal Houle told this story to me a good number of years ago and he told it to everyone he talked to on the phone starting back in the 1990's. The Sailor's aiming system, which I detail in my book, is to me the only accurate way to aim at a pool ball. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. 1434. If there were 10. 4. B. It has NO 7 fractions along the face of the OB. It is absolutely connected. I find it interesting that a guy like svb who started playing pool when he probably was 5 or so and i think i herd him say he played in a league at 9 in a. The blue line is the initial line up method that you would manually have come to with just eying the shot. . Mr. There are. Without having tried this method on the table I want to acknowledge the spirit of innovation that exists that motivates players to run with concept. Hal, what he created, and those who followed will live forever. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. . The inventor of CTE was Hal Houle. pj chgo . Hal is no longer with us, but fortunately, he showed. I would telephone every few months checking in with him or he would call me and we would talk. . Silver Member. S. 484 623 4144" I must admit I was a little nervous calling him out of the blue to talk about one of the most highly controversial and heated topics that has ever been discussed on the AZbilliards website--Aiming one sphere to another sphere the same way but at different distances and getting the same consistent result. I think Hal's latest way of describing it, the "3-point" version where. Search titles only. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. Silver Member. There is nothing on Earth Stan or Hal Houle could have done without getting blasted for one thing or another. It's like DNA, do what comes. Instruction & Ask the pros. I also reviewed newspaper clippings from The New York Times, and I've drawn a. . . His method consisted of the ABC lines on the object ball and the center and edge of the cue ball. He was born on November 4, 1931 in Darby, Pennsylvania. And who would have been the first to do it? YOU GUESSED IT IF YOU SAID PAT JOHNSON, who was the first in 1997 to go after Hal Houle on RSB and then other users. . Search titles only. ". JoeyInCali Maker of. Stan Shuffett entered the picture a week ago or so and invited to teach me his CTE/Pro One Aiming System. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. Very sorry to hear about Hal Houle's passing. To read the pool playing tutorial for the Hal Houle Point and Pivot System, click the link to go on to the full pool playing tips article. . Just sayin'. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. S. How does Hal Houle’s three-angle system work? Hal Houles’ 3-angle system is a type of fractional-ball aiming system. . There are some DVDs on the subject. What's this fixation with aiming? It's a personal thing. Stan has spent the last 15 years learning those secrets and has explained them. Search titles only. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. A few are not pleasant from those that do not. ALL of Hal Houle's systems had the exact same foundation. I doubt that Stan's defining and refining will change any of that no matter how exact CTE/Pro One is. Too many things didn't make sense to me so I moved on. He started all of his destruction of aiming systems, Hal Houle, CTE, etc. Pro's try to explain how they "Aim". . . I think you can practice while day dreaming - Hal said line them up and wack um. I like. May 1, 2023 #254 Dan White said: I think CTE discussion is more interesting that what color chalk do you use or which cue maker screwed somebody over this week, lol. . Hal Houle. The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. No personal. And I would have continued to skip them if Hal Houle hadn't asked me to meet him in Denver and graciously donated some of his time to teach me some of methods. Then after I got home. Whenever someone asks me how long I’ve been playing, I always say, "Since I met Hal. . Hal was a veteran of the U. He must have been up in his 80's; not sure. Yes. I am proficient at ghost ball and contact points, I just was looking into a system to double check my aim if I am uncertain. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. I reside in Russia and. Harold G. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle may've been the first to use the word "visual" as a noun relating to pool shots, just as he or Stan was probably the first to use the words "visual perception" in relation to visualizing pool shots. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. Hal Houle . First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. Joey: But what is your system to aim? Efren: I aim for pocket. Silver Member. Aiming ConversationAs per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. HOULEHarold G. If the graph below actually represents the variety of. Even Mother Teresa and Ghandi have detractors. . . Looking forward to some positive recollections of Hal and his theories and methods. If you, as a pool enthusiast and player are interested in improving your game by becoming proficient with CTE (Center To Edge) Aiming, it won't be here. And in fact I do credit Hal Houle and Stan and everyone working on objective aiming for keeping me interested in playing. way I aim is I am alway shooting cue ball center but I am using the edge of the shaft. good evening America. S. To Freddie Agnir and others for spending time on the table showing what you learned from Hal and being willing to help. As has been discussed from time to time (a euphemism for ad nauseam), fractional aiming systems would appear to require an adjustment method for shots that don't fall exactly into the categories of half-ball hit (center-to-edge) or the other general aim guides. Most errors in a stroke originate in the backstroke, and get amplified on the forward stroke. Hal Houle I totally agree. It is not CTE but it IS a Hal Houle aiming system called SHISKABOB. And I listened. There are many Great's with completely different strokes and "aiming" methods. I don't understand half of Spidey's post but I compeletly understand what he means. Yes, there are AIM points, but they are clearly visible on the OB and not imaginary. Both of these men have spent a lot of time figuring out alternative ways to line up to the shot. How does this work. Aiming ConversationSearch titles only. Fez was also very good friends with Ralph Greenleaf who was also traveling the country with financially backed by. I have played around with CTE for ~ 2 years. You are referring to Hal Houles aiming system. Notable people with the surname include: David Houle (biologist), evolutionary biologist David Houle (futurist) (born 1948), futurist and author Dave Houle,. S. and others who teach these things their due. (edited December 26th, Amazon ended the free promotion and the book is now $1. However Hal Houle is AWESOME and so is Ron Vitello. ALL of which had a pivot including CTE. When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. pj chgo . Eventually, I became his successor. Yes. ) For this column I've also spoken to BCA instructor Tom Simpson, who graciously put me in contact with Houle. Search titles only. 0. A. “When you’re one step ahead of the crowd you’re a genius. It's just a fact of life that no matter what you do there are people who find issue with it. . I wasn't bugged by the endless arguments on RSB 14 years ago over aiming, I simply skipped them. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small group for 25 years on multiple pool forums but have found a home on this forum since 2003. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. Silver Member. Very minimal. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate of the Sailor's system only much less detailed and much less comprehensive. I ran across a YT video of a snooker coach having his student wear this and practicing. By: Search Advanced search…Specifically in regards to CTE? We've gone from it can't work to it can't work as advertised. . Hals's version started with an "inside cue tip" placement on the CB aiming to the same three spots on the OB as this guy and then pivoting back to center. So, since I'm in an endless training period, I had to have one. I have been shooting pool off and on for about 25 years, so if I am using one, I would have to assume it is the ghost ball, but I cannot tell. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. No personal. Jul 16, 2008 #9 Hal, I've heard you are open to describe your aiming system on the phone but don't go away with it written. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Dyer, writing in Billiards Digest: "One other detail about the pool legend - and an extremely. I have been playing pool since I was seven, shining shoes in bars, I'm 63. he did the same thing to hal houle. I am proficient at ghost ball and contact points, I just was looking into a system to double check my aim if I am uncertain. Honestly no matter what "system" you use if you do not have a consistent stroke, a straight stroke, and good fundamentals, the want to get better, and. EXACTLY WHAT is the Supposed Phenomenon for Center to Edge 'Aiming'. I then listened to them for several more hours while on my route as a mailman today so I could really let it sink into my subconscious. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. I've shot pool for a good portion of my life but never took it to the next level. He has many system so make sure it is the wright one before you try to make a joke out of him. Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. Ron Vitello also teaches one that is dubbed 90/90 which is also incredibly precise and accurate. I said Hal who? He said Hal Houle, the aiming guy from RSB. Was great to hear his stories. I have read a few CTE threads but not really posted much. Was great to hear his stories. The following was passed on to me by someone who was there in the loop and a close friend of Hal. by Billiards Forum Webmaster | May 1, 2011 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards | 0 comments. i teach professional aiming systems. . Yes, I aim to put ball in pocket. At the end of the day Aiming Systems are being proven to work and accepted by more and more people. I haven't seen any testimonials lately and I got to wondering how Stan's facebook page (aka the impenetrable fortress of solitude) was doing. ) I will be more than happy. I hope it does not relate to fraction aiming because I don't feel comfortable with that. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. 5 + 2. Would you, Mike Howerton, head honcho of AZ Billiards and of sound body and mind (most of the time). Was great to hear his stories. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. Thank you thank you thank you. Instruction & Ask the pros. Also, now in effect, all. Jan 16, 2020. Although, like San Jose Dick, the math is over my head and the physics lingo wrecks my game because I am thinking about when I play, I KNOW that there is merit to these systems and I will rejoice when the math and science guys figure it out and give people like Hal Houle and Ron V. By: Search Advanced search…Throw 15 balls out on the table and start wherever you wish with a one rail or more bank. :grin-square: Perhaps the video will be large enough to honor Hal Houle for what he created. Hal said he could probably teach me his aiming system in 15 minutes. I want to credit Hal rightly so don't confuse Houle's Pivot Aim with his controversial fractions and degrees aim system. Hal Houle, the person I will call the father of all this, had many many many variations and systems. "CTE naturally aligns CB-OB relations as an overcut to. Started playing in 1934. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. I watched all dvds I listed above and they are some good and some bad. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. It was very obvious to me how Jimmy was making balls. Hal Hale was an American basketball player and coach. Most of the people that have learned one or more of his systems do not give out much info, as he did/does not want them. & Mrs. The 15 - 30 - and 45. Stan and Landon Shuffett took an interest in Hal's CTE and they both met and studied with Hal. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. and let's go to press. 5 years ago. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. FYI, I just updated my online glossary of pool and billiards terms and phrases. Search titles only. EXACTLY WHAT is the Supposed Phenomenon for Center to Edge 'Aiming'. 82 m (5 ft 11 + 1 ⁄ 2 in) Weight: 72 kg (159 lb; 11 st 5 lb) Team information; Current team:. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods of ball-pocketing (without the guesswork of ghost ball or other traditional methods. He has created several different systems to help people play better. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. i teach professional aiming systems. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. This is just what I've heard. Recognizing those. By: Search Advanced search…I really was hesitant to bring this up and face the wrath of khan if this has already been clearly explained but I can't find it so can someone please point. Jul 15, 2008 #8 Bval Use The Aiming System That Efren Reyes Uses. I hoped that he would chime in and help explain away the apparent dilemma. knows that I'm a proponent of Hal Houle. I'm told that Hal Houle recognises this and recommends the. Hal Houle said that there are only 3 angles that are important. He got it. . Gulfport, Mississippi. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. . That "7 fractions" stuff is total BALONEY and I have no idea where that got pulled out of. By: Search Advanced search…However, Hal Houle (there's that name again) also created a STICK AIMING SYSTEM that had nothing to do with CENTERS and EDGES. and I get all da rolls. His gem being Center To Edge. . If this is true, there must be something VERY, VERY POSITIVE (AND SOUND) to. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. G. The blue line is the initial line up method that you would manually have come to with just eying the shot. Hal Houle figured it out over 70 years ago. Mary Lou Houle 04/11/1930 - 11/21/2022Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. Hal Houle knew Greenleaf and probably Fez. What is it exactly? How is it used in. That reference said he was from Boston. pj chgo . Barbara was born in Waterbury and was the. It is not CTE but it IS a Hal Houle aiming system called SHISKABOB. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. Article posted in: Billiards Forum -> Cue Sports -> Pool Playing Tips -> Aiming and Execution Tutorials. I don't have the numbers anymore, as they were in a notebook I can. I keep reading the term 'feel' player - a feel player is simply a player who started with an aiming system and used it long enough. I have been playing pool lately with a older gentlemen, who has owned numerous pool rooms over the years in the San Jose area. Cherished mother of David Morse, Kathleen (Mike) Morse, the late Sam Morse, the late Dean Morse, and the late Glen Morse. I do have a slight background as I have had some interaction with some of the CTE names. I will be publishing a series of free online. showed me his swivel system (similar to Hal's system), light aiming system and shadow aiming. Some players took as long as 6 seconds before pulling. . pj chgoInstruction & Ask the pros. A. Examples include Hal Houle’s 3angle system- , CTE, and SAM. From the very first ball i. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. I believe. I've met Hal a few times. it's kinda funny though. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System. I know Hal Houle there are only 3 or 4 shots in pool. . 1/4, 1/2, center and maybe edge to edge. To the "Putdown Posse", Mr. All of which are very interesting and Ive been mixing and matching depending on the shot but for easy shots, I still use the ghostball system. . It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. Watched the World 10 Ball Championships2022. By: Search Advanced search…Years ago, in a galaxy far, far away (in RSB, an internet pool newsgroup before AZ came along) he labeled Hal Houle a heretic for preaching this mystical and magical system called CTE. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. So no, not playing the victim at all. . Search titles only. The best person to ask is Hal himself. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolSearch titles only. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. gentlemen - upside down glasses are the NUTS. halhoule AzB Silver Member. hal houle. I'm going to explain how to shoot this shot into the upper right corner pocket using real CTE. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. Hal Houle. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. Ask The InstructorIt's a useless question, no one knows. side (plus "real thin") no matter how you do it. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. I don't know why and frankly I. Hal Houle invented it about 7 or 8 DECADES ago and called it Shiskebob. A. M is a visual aiming method. The one thing that stuck out to me was how long (in seconds) the very good players stayed at the set position before pulling the cue back to shoot. Subsequent phone calls continued to develop a hunger for more information about CTE and as Hal's health continued to decline, Stan was forced to do his own study on CTE. Hal Houle, the person I will call the father of all this, had many many many variations and systems. 5 + 2. A lot of my terminology might be a little outdated but once you lock in your visuals, what is the precise order of. Aiming ConversationDo any of the pros actually use these systems? I remember about a year ago I tried to use the ghost balls system but I found that it could fail at clutch moments. Hal was a veteran of the U. And I heard. Most are good honest requests to learn. i have a comment which will go something like this---many years ago there was a man named hal houle--houle as in pool he used to say! he posted on rsb to the dismay of most- an aiming system - boasting of 6 angles . RecSportBilliards in 1996. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. From what I know of the Hal Houle point and pivot system, it has to do with actually pivoting the cue itself slightly. When I first learned of Hal Houle, I immediately sought him out because I heard he was a very knowledgeable man. Hugo Houle: Born 27 September 1990 (age 33) Sainte-Perpétue, Canada: Height: 1. Silver Member. I am not even sure I use an aiming system, and not even sure what to look for it I am. Instruction & Ask the pros. Search titles only. M is a by-product of Hal Houle's teaching. Hal understood what they were doing in order to connect with the angles that lead to pockets even if they had no clue. I try to use the aim & pivot method which goes like aim with the cue stick somewhere aside of the cue ball center to the contact point or the edge of the object ball and then pivot (only with the back hand) to the middle of the cue ball. It's the method, not the final position. I'm still confused on the exact steps of stepping the cueball. Anybody know?dunno if the user named "halhoule" is the real thing, but he seems to be spamming this 'efren reyes aiming system' stuff + a phone number to people. The Sailor's aiming system, which I detail in my book, is to me the only accurate way to aim at a pool ball. What is the Supposed Phenomenon of Center to Edge Aiming? This thread is an attempt to garner for ALL concerned. JB CASES 21 videos 45,079 views Last updated on Mar 16, 2021 Play all Shuffle 1 0:27 DrDaves-Test JB CASES • 15K views • 13 years ago 2 9:20 Why Ghost. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles. He truly was one of a kind who made pool his lifetime achievement in so many ways. They could care less about 90/90 or the SEE System. Anyone who's watched me, talked to me on these boards, etc. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. S. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. Silver Member. . Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. Just reading the 1st chapter brings back so many memories of my teachings with Hal. . Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. A.